Shortly after Kort’thalis Publishing’s Alpha Blue sci-fi RPG was published to DriveThruRPG, it was suspended. People complained it was inappropriately adult. The suspension was soon reversed, and now it’s a Gold Best Seller and maintains a 4/5 star review after nearly 30 reviews.
This week Alpha Blue was toppled from Kort’thalis’s hottest seller as author Venger As’Nas Satanis latest RPG, Cha’alt, took the top spot.
So, who is buying these games? One assumption is that it’s sexually frustrated young men who need the dice to roll up some light relief for them.
The “Heavy Metal It Up To Eleven” table (page 54) in Alpha Blue has a Wardrobe malfunction as its first entry;
The nearest female’s clothing is either flimsy or fatigued by the physical strain. It comes apart and now her star and planets are enjoying a nice space breeze.”
The last entry on the table allows your character to become a muscle-bound barbarian with a 10-inch dick or transform into a voluptuous woman.
Assumptions, though, are unwise. Crazed Sheep is a Roll20 GM currently running mature encounters on Goodman Games’ Peril of the Purple Planet, and she’s an Alpha Blue fan.
Crazed Sheep has kindly agreed to speak to Geek Native about the merits of Alpha Blue and Kort’thalis Publishing’s adult range.
Is there a shortage of sex-focused adult RPGs on the market?
Shortage? No. We saw what happened when AB hit the market. Most people are just offended. It’s a niche. I think Venger did a pretty good job and right now I don’t see the need for more of that niche. Which goes for a lot of settings, if you will, in the RPG industry.
Do we really need someone else to write us sexy encounter tables?
In all honesty, I wouldn’t have known how to set up such a game. So, a definite yes in my case. I can’t speak for others though, of course.
I used a very memorable encounter in one of my games with a pineapple in places where it usually wouldn’t go. I’m a pretty imaginative GM, and still I was glad I stumbled upon this. And we had a good laugh.
I guess it all depends on your “tv/comics education”. I loved watching those satirical movies when I was younger. Barbarella, to name the most prominent. Everyone knows it’s basically a joke, totally exaggerated. But it’s hard, for me, to make this into a game, just because of the tabu-ish taste.
Do you think the stereotype that the primary buyers of such games are sexually frustrated young men is an unfair and inaccurate one?
Life isn’t fair, so I want to call it at least inaccurate. On the one hand, I’m absolutely certain there ARE sexually frustrated young men buying the product. And honestly: Why not? Who are we to damn someone for this? On the other hand, I’ve run games and played games of Alpha Blue with the definition of normal men. Normal, in this case, meaning middle-aged, and, as far as I know, happily married men. Open-minded individuals who enjoy the occasional chucklefuck session of craziness. So, yes, very inaccurate. In my opinion, there is a huge variety of players and GMs who like to play those games. Not every day and with varying degrees of explicitness, of course.
Did you know Alpha Blue is among DriveThruRPG’s top 5% selling games? Who do you think the primary buyers are?
I actually didn’t know, but I’m very happy for Venger!
I think the primary buyers are people who want something funny for a change, something that might seem inappropriate to others. A lot of people apparently think that AB players enact orgies of sexual explicitness in total seriousness in those games. Like porn (if you can call that serious). Well, you can certainly play it like that. But, to be honest, who is REALLY comfortable doing that in front of 4 or 5 others? If I want porn, I watch porn and don’t game porn. Or I grab my significant other and do what I have to do.
Long story short: People who buy AB just want to play something different, make inappropriate jokes for once and scratch on the surface of pruderie. And just because it’s dangerous to say things in general in this time and age: It’s all fine, no matter how you want to play your game! If you want to play super safe, great. If you want to be riské, great as well! Do what floats your boat.
But I guess the question really is the following: Do ONLY men buy AB? My answer: Yes, mostly. The “Why” is a little bit more difficult to answer, because there can be many reasons. Type of character. Upbringing. Men tend to discuss sexual themes way more freely than women do, in my opinion. Women’s sex drives are different compared to those of men. And hell, that’s not a bad thing. It just means there are legitimate and benign reasons for more men buying AB.
Alpha Blue has rules for men and women. For example, page 31 has “Which Part of a Woman Do You Like Best?” with results like ‘Breast’ or ‘Butt’ and its accompanied by “For the Ladies and Gay Dudes… What’s Your Type?’ with outcomes like ‘Rugged’ or ‘Clean cut’. In your opinion, does the game get the gender and orientation balance about right? Would you change anything?
So, first of all, nobody stops us from including our own stuff. This is what GMs (and players) do since the beginning of RPGs. As I stated before, the focus is on the male player. Of course, you aim the content at men. And most men are attracted to women. From a business perspective, it’s totally legitimate and SMART.
Do I want more stuff for me as a female who is into males? Sure, bring it! But that isn’t something I would complain about.
You’ve run Alpha Blue for your YouTube channel. What tips would you give other female GMs, based on your experience, for the game?
Well, first of all, I’m very aware of the dangers. You certainly don’t want to play AB with a total creep. And if someone turns out to be a creep, make sure to get him (or her!) removed from your table. But to be honest: That can happen in “normal” games, too. So, I’m not too concerned about it. Online games are a totally different story. You can just kick them out of Hangouts, and you’re good.
In general, my tips would be: Don’t play with strangers. It’s like an ONS. Could turn out awkward. Secondly, I don’t like X-Cards. But, if you feel better with them, then use them. In my opinion, it’s enough to mention that nobody has to go into details (if that’s what you want). If it turns out a player is going a bit too far, just tell them!
Women in Alpha Blue are frequently described as sluts, whores or slaves. Is this because the setting is a space brothel and part of the game’s attraction? Couldn’t a few encounter ideas have female customers encountering submissive men?
That. Space brothel and part of the game’s attraction. Considering history though, yes, why not include female customers and submissive men or male customers and submissive men? Men worked in brothels in Greece, later in France, just to name a few examples. Mainly for male customers, not for women, but still. So, sure, bring it. But, again, include it if you’re the GM. Just because men as customers are targeted doesn’t mean you have to go with everything Venger puts into his books.
Female empowerment or the lack of it is a political hot potato in the States and Alpha Blue’s author, Venger Satanis, has used his blog to support Donald Trump. Do you think there’s politics in Alpha Blue? Does the game promote a fantasy ideal of women and men that are held by a political tribe?
I really don’t care which author supports who. I love Lovecraft. He was a terrible racist, and I despise his views. Still, I love his stories. They are great. If I would make a background check on all the authors I like, just to see if I have to ban them from my shelf, I’d probably be very disappointed and end up with a very empty library. We tend to forget we’re all human beings and we can’t agree on everything. And no, I don’t think there is politics in the game. It’s a satire of the human sex drive, history, and human psychology in general.
Don’t get me wrong. There are men (and WOMEN) who fantasize about women being their whores/sluts/servants/whatever. And guess what: Let them. They can fantasize as much as they want because that’s all that it is. A fantasy. But are you really suggesting there is a political tribe aiming for an AB space brothel themed earth? I don’t think there is. Not even remotely. And if Venger would actually promote such a party/tribe/world view, his wife would do bad things to him.
Lastly, is this all marketing? I began this interview by asking whether you thought there was a shortage of adult sex-orientated RPGs and whether we needed someone’s help to write them, but perhaps this is all about appealing to certain corners of Reddit and the ‘Chan’ bulletin boards online?
I’m sure it’s in part marketing. I’m sure it’s appealing to certain Reddit and 4chan users. I know it’s appealing to my friends and me, although I wouldn’t consider us being part of the aforementioned groups. That classification doesn’t sound right to me, though. It sounds like it is a bad thing to like certain types of genres. Nobody is being hurt, only offended. And that’s on the individual, not the consumer or the author.
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Really? Extolling the virtues of Venger Satanis?
The guy is a first rate fuckwit that takes pride in demeaning trans struggles by ‘coming out’ as identifying as an alien race.
He’s in the same boat of shitheels as Zak, RPGPundit, and others.
He’s been a shit bag forever, but now he’s got exposure.
Thanks Geek Native. :/
I understand your concerns and they’re valid. This post is not an endorsement of Venger and his views. I hope that this post helps illustrate exactly the sort of content he has published and some of his views. I don’t believe this post will reach anyone who’s not already aware of Venger. I do believe it’s worth understanding why people do what they do so we can learn and adjust our own debates. In this case, Crazed Sheep makes it clear – she simply doesn’t care about Venger’s beliefs. Implicit in that admission, I think, is that if you did… Read more »
Considering that this article is posted on the facebook page for Geek Native undercuts the awareness issue with the provocative title. The argument of separating the artist and his art isn’t really made here. Especially since it does not offer those that are lured in by the salacious title, any links to be informed on how this ‘artist’ gins up controversy to sell his over-rated products on a website. It illustrates one person’s love of a theoretically sexy game, their rules for playing them, and gleefully abdicating responsibility on who and how they support these bad actors. Invariably, those people… Read more »
You don’t know me, Sir. I don’t know you. How can you say I share someone’s views if you don’t know me? That’s a little far fetched.
Is this attitude why the left has been getting the cultural cold shoulder over the last few years? Possibly.
Also, my coming out as trans-humanist does not diminish the brave and beautiful trans individuals both on and off twitter.
Since none of these imposed, designer, narcissistic genders have been scientifically vetted, no one can be nixed for saying they are anything, so far. It’s the Wild West at the moment. Disturbingly, Galileo and Jordan Peterson are similar in one respect: a huge overbearing organizing is trying to make them utter things they know from research are not true.
“Invariably, those people that claim to not care about the author’s views, share those views. That’s why they don’t care.”
Thats the worst argument Ive ever seen. What a sweeping generalization.
No…some people literally just dont care enough about the authors personal life to actually give a crap. Youd be shocked at the number of people that have no interest in what another persons beliefs are.
It’s called “democracy”.
Don’t pander to cancel culture leftist wackadoodles who don’t create anything and spend their time trying to enforce their views on the rest of the internet.
Don’t be an apologist.
Glad that you’re pro-choice Jeff. I look forward to opposing attempts to curtail net neutrality.
That’s what I think is sad and why I agreed to do this interview. Venger takes pride in demeaning trans struggles by coming out as an alien. Ok? This is taken out of context. Nowhere is he demeaning trans struggles. Show me where, please, if you disagree. What he did was a reaction on the questionable practice of being George, the truck driver, with hair bursting out of his collar, but proclaiming he’s a she and being now allowed to enter the women’s restroom. And yes, this is totally exaggerated and that’s exactly what Venger was doing. Exaggerating to make… Read more »
Woah. You say Venger is so mean, but the one doing hate-speech about another human being just for political or sociological ideas is you.
Venger has NEVER say or done anything like those things you haters always keep repeating. He just use satire and polemical stuff with Great sense of humour.
And again, hating a product just because it’s autor is just mean and very illogical. Enjoy your bible, then! Written by womanizer psychopathical murderous zealots of ancient greece. You see? Context is important!
If you’re anti-hate-speech and against bullying people who have different sociological ideas than you – you’re entirely anti-Trump. Right?
How do you know he’s NOT aliengender. Have these new hundreds of gender been scientifically vetted in the first place? So who is to say you’re a designer gender and he’s not?
I played in a game of Alpha Blue….run by Mr. Satanis…at a well known convention. I did it out of curiosity. Interesting thing…The game I was in had as many women as it did men….and they were the worst of us all. Is was all about having a chucklefuck good time. There was no anti gay, anti trans, anti anything really. (Other than anti normal). In the end…I honestly think that we….(including the women) Actually made VENGER feel uncomfortable. It was all about having a change of pace. Alpha Blue is like any other RPG. Take from it what you… Read more »
Uptight people should ask themselves why they complain, if the proposed United Nations Yogyakarta Principles guarantee Freedom of Sexual Expression. Period. Let individuals make their own consenting arrangements. For sure they will consent to things you don’t like, but so what?
Gamers used to get extreme flak and even child-abuse instigated by the Fundamentalist Christians, but now, we’re getting it from an unexpected quarter.